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105. From Public School to Homeschool: Sabrina Freeland’s Journey and TeenPact Insights

Rebecca Twomey

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Curious about how to transition from a traditional school setting to homeschooling? Sabrina Freeland, the TeenPact Tennessee State Coordinator, shares her inspiring 22-year homeschool journey with her four children. Sabrina's background as a public school teacher provides a unique perspective, and she offers invaluable insights into making the switch to a flexible homeschooling approach. You'll learn about her initial motivations, the wise advice she received early on, and the vibrant community she built through activities and organizations like TeenPact. This episode also tackles common misconceptions about homeschooling, particularly around socialization, and showcases the joys, challenges, and unique benefits of this educational path.

Sabrina also takes us through the impactful TeenPact program, designed to educate youth about government and leadership through hands-on experiences at the state Capitol and retreat centers. Sabrina explains how Teen Pact integrates Christian faith into education, inspiring students to become informed and active citizens. Whether you're a seasoned homeschooler or just considering this educational path, Sabrina's experiences and advice are sure to leave you both encouraged and inspired. Don't miss out on learning how curriculums like Tapestry of Grace can cater to different learning styles and streamline education across multiple ages.

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to the Radiant Mission Podcast. My name is Rebecca Toomey and we are on a mission to encourage and inspire you as you're navigating through your life and with your relationship with Christ. As you're navigating through your life and with your relationship with Christ, we have been in a series on homeschooling and today we are welcoming Sabrina Freeland. She is the Teen Pact Tennessee State Coordinator and she's been married to Brent for 28 years. They homeschooled their four children Hannah, brock, kareen and Emma for over 22 years. All four are in or have graduated from college now, and Teen Pact was a big part of their homeschooling experience, especially while their children were in high school. So we're going to talk a little bit about that today. But, sabrina, thank you so much for being here today. Thank you for inviting me, absolutely. So first let's get just dive right into it. What really encouraged you or motivated you to homeschool? Why did you go the homeschooling route?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I grew up public school, my husband grew up in public school and we graduated in the 80s. I have a brother who is almost 12 years younger than me and in the 90s, when he was in elementary school, my parents for some reasons and things that were being taught to him in public school they decided to pull him out and homeschool him. So I was in college, but when I would come home from college I would help facilitate his classes and do things with them. And then when I graduated college, I was living back at home and helping my mom homeschool him. And I went on to teach public school for 10 years.

Speaker 2:

I was an elementary school music teacher and I just always felt led that I wanted to homeschool my children. So when I met my husband, or when I met Brent, who would later become my husband, we decided I was very honest from the beginning that I wanted to be a homeschool mom and he had never really known anyone who homeschooled. But the more I told him about it and he learned about it, he was on board with that and it was just never a question in my mind. Everyone homeschools when they come home from the hospital. And we just kept on going. We never stopped.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely. How was that journey from public school? Because you mentioned that you taught in the public school system. How do you feel that that jump kind of differed for you?

Speaker 2:

Right. So I had some very wise counsel early on from a veteran homeschool mom, even before our oldest was school age, and she said because you're a former public school teacher, you're going to need to lose your public school ideas and the way of doing things. So I just listened to that advice and didn't really focus on a desk and a schedule like we did in public school. So we learned that flexibility early on and it just, you know, god was gracious and day by day we figured things out. You don't have to know everything when you start, thankfully.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome and such good advice. I hear so many moms who were elementary school teachers had kids stayed home with their kids the first couple of years. Now they're getting to kindergarten and they're saying I don't know what to do. I kind of want to homeschool, but I don't feel like I can school my own kids and I'm like you can do it. You can't school your own kids. If you can teach in a classroom, you certainly can, but you have to throw out what you know about schedules. Yes, absolutely, that's very good advice. Now I know another area that we've kind of been talking about on the podcast about homeschooling is that there's this misconception that homeschoolers are not socialized and, you know, are not around people and all this kind of thing. But I mean, I was homeschooled. I have found that to not be the case at all. If anything, we were doing too much sometimes. Talk to us a little bit about community and how you built community with your children.

Speaker 2:

Sure, and I joke and tell people through the years look at the amount of miles on my van and you'll know how socialized or unsocialized our children are. You know we, when they were young, we did play groups neighborhood which when they were they were so close together there's just over four years between all four of them, because the last two were twins that we stay close to home a lot. Our church was just a few miles away. We did Awana and Sunday school, things like that had neighbors we played with. But as they got older we ventured out. Our kids did 4-H, you know, they did band orchestra. We were in quite a few co-ops through the years, just depending on our season of life and where we were living and the needs. Every year it looks different. And then when our oldest was nine years old and this will date me back when before Facebook groups there were Yahoo groups and I saw a post about this one day field trip to the state Capitol and we lived near Raleigh, north Carolina so I signed up our daughter to go on this field trip and a few days before I said to my husband I said look, I signed up Hannah for this field trip to this team packed leadership school on Friday they're going to go do a capital tour and learn about the capital and all that. I said she's done her homework. Do you want to take her to that, or do you want to go to co-op and be in the nursery with the little kids all day? And he was like I'm doing this field trip. So off they went. And when my husband came home with Hannah he said this is an organization we're going to want to be around for a while. It's top notch. I was really impressed with what. Next year I signed up Hannah and Brock was old enough at that point to go and my husband eagerly volunteered to take both of them that year, which I think he took them out for pancakes at lunch, but anyway, that's besides the point. And so they went that year and we left North Carolina after that and missed out on team pack for a couple of years. But then when they were opening the state, opening the class here in Tennessee.

Speaker 2:

And so then in 2014, we were here in Tennessee and, through some relationships we have with team pack, I was asked to help start the Tennessee class. So I went as a chaperone with our oldest, hannah, who was 13 by this time and I took her there. We didn't know anyone. There were 21 students and I was the chaperone for the girls' cabin.

Speaker 2:

And a little side note here Hannah didn't really want to go and she put off doing her homework to the very last minute and then she got the flu. So we we got to class a little bit late because we had to wait till Monday morning to leave, so that she was fever free long enough and she didn't have all her homework finished. But I said well, we've paid for it, we're going to go do the class anyway. Long story short, she didn't participate all week. I called my husband and said well, we've paid for it, we're going to go do the class anyway. Long story short, she didn't participate all week. I called my husband and said we just wasted our money, like it's. You know she's not participating.

Speaker 2:

That weekend we get to my brother's house visiting him before coming home and I overhear a conversation with her and her cousin and she was just going on and on about how wonderful it was and all the things they did and I thought, well, that little sneak, she was learning. So, needless to say, we kept doing it. That was that summer is when I became the state coordinator because the state coordinator who had done it? He took a different job and wasn't able to do it. So I started coordinating and our daughter went back the next year loving it and it's just been gung-ho ever since for all of our kids.

Speaker 1:

That is just awesome and hilarious that she was just very introverted almost about her experience with you, but with other people was very much like.

Speaker 2:

No, this was awesome all the way there to Nashville, from Knoxville to Nashville, I got the side eye. You know that look from teenagers. She was not happy and if she hears this she'll laugh, because she knows she wasn't happy. She's heard me tell that story many times.

Speaker 1:

So I would love for you to share with listeners a little bit more about Teen Pact. What exactly is it? What is your mission? What are you trying to achieve in the community with teens? And then it sounds like it starts around eight or nine years old.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so the one-day class which is on that Friday of the week of class is for eight to 12 year olds and it's a condensed version of the four day class for 13 year olds and older.

Speaker 2:

And it's mostly homeschoolers at team packed.

Speaker 2:

We do have occasionally students from private school or public school if their calendars line up, but generally speaking it's homeschoolers because they're the ones with the flexible schedules, which is one of the reasons we enjoyed homeschooling.

Speaker 2:

And so Team Pact is this hands-on learning experience for students to learn about government but also leadership. And I have parents tell me all the time my kid's not interested in government, my kid's not interested in that, and I say that's fine, my children weren't really interested in it either. But all of our children will hopefully be voting citizens once they turn 18 years old and they need to understand the political process, and what better way to learn it than an interactive environment where they're not just sitting and reading a book or listening to a lecture. They are participating in a mock legislature, in a mock election legislature. In a mock election they're hearing from speakers like the governor and the speaker of the house, lobbyists, judges, state senators, state representatives all these people who are involved in our state government and letting our students understand the process and that they can be involved even before they're 18 years old.

Speaker 1:

That sounds a lot more learning than most children are getting. When it comes to being educated about our government and how it works, it's kind of more like you said you're reading a textbook. You're learning dot dot dot. That's so cool to hear that they're participating in things to really learn how the system works. Yes, and when their lunch is a working lunch because they're participating in things to really learn how the system works.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and when their lunch is a working lunch because they're in their committees reading through bills and voting on bills to either kill the bill in committee or pass it through. They're learning the process and it just thrills me when I'll get a text or a phone call or an email or something from a parent later that says my child's watching C-SPAN or, you know, my child is reading up on the bills that our state legislature is considering. You know just, they understand more how it works once they participate in that mock setting.

Speaker 1:

I bet have many of these children that have been through this gone on to go into government, would you say?

Speaker 2:

So I know through Team Pact there has been a few who in across the country now understand Team Pact is in all 50 states, Okay, so whoever's listening, it's in your state If you're in the US the 50 states and I know that there was a young lady in Florida who went on to be a state representative for a few years. There was a gentleman in Oklahoma that just comes to mind. There was a team factor who was actually one of the attorneys for President Trump when he was in office. So there have been those students who grasped it and went for it. And there are lots of team packers who have gone to law school. But more than that, there are team packers who are engineers, firefighters, school teachers, policemen, all they're all over in our society and they're influencing others and they know how to present what they believe and understand in a kind, polite way, but yet they know how to stand for what they believe.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of beliefs, I love the about. It mentions that part of this is also about the relationship with Christ, Exactly. Talk to us a little bit about that side of things.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and so I guess I should, and I'm going to read this because I don't want to mess it up with memorization, but on TeamPack's website it says that through dynamic experiences, TeamPack seeks to inspire youth in their relationship with Christ and train them to understand the political process, value their liberty, defend the Christian faith and engage the culture around them. Changing lives to change the world is more than a vision statement to us. It's what we do every day. So, for a student who comes to our one-day class or the four-day class, they're going to sing songs together in worship, they're going to hear a devotion, they're going to be, we're going to pray together and they're going to learn to apply scripture to their lives as they're deciding who they want to vote for. This isn't just about who you're going to vote for for president or federal elections. This is about our state elections, our city and county elections being involved at every level to influence the world for Christ.

Speaker 1:

Wow, very cool. It's a much. It's deeper into your local community. It's not just about the larger. You know, every four years elections. This is everything this is my community where I live. How can I positively influence my community?

Speaker 2:

Exactly Because we need leaders in our homes, we need leaders in our churches, we need leaders in our communities and we need leaders who are following Christ and it's encouraging our students that even at a young age, they can make a difference, and I will say that, although not many team pastors have gone on to be public officials, they're making a difference. There was a young lady at National Convention this year who talked about how she made a difference in her home state after one of her brothers died and just how they, how she had learned through the political process to make a difference that way, even before she was 18 years old.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's awesome Now in the state of Tennessee. Are all of the classes in Nashville or are they kind of all over the place?

Speaker 2:

No, no we go to the state Capitol so we you can be a kid.

Speaker 2:

So for the four day class, for the 13 year old and higher older, they can be a commuter or they can be a camper.

Speaker 2:

So the campers, we stay out at Deer Run Retreat, which is about 30 or 40 miles south of Nashville, and once they are dropped off at the camp or at class on Monday, we transport them back and forth with parent volunteers in the camp bus. And so we are at the. We use the capital for field experiences that we call them, where they learn about the legislative branch and the executive branch and just judicial branch, lobbyists, all that. And then we meet for in the classroom space in the conference center of the library downtown. So it's just a short walk back and forth to the capitol. But then when we go back to deer run they change out of their dress clothes and get into more comfortable clothes, tennis shoes, what have you? Play games there at the camp and then we have worship at night and the speaker, a devotion from the class director, and then we play some group games and then go head off to cabins, sleep and start over the next day. For the one day, students, parents come with them.

Speaker 2:

They're required to have an adult with them because of the scavenger hunt at the Capitol and eight to 12 year olds don't need to be without their parents in downtown national and um. And so we again have a time of worship and they go do a scavenger hunt in the Capitol, have lunch and then they do their mock legislature, mock election and all the good stuff.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's very cool and I can see for that Friday.

Speaker 2:

I should point out, for the older students, the 13 year olds and older, they finished their four day class on Thursday. We have graduation on Thursday afternoon, so on Friday they have an optional class called the political communication workshop, which is where they learn to communicate what they believe in a kind, effective manner, and it gives them a better understanding on communication and especially, you know, when you're articulating and communicating political ideas, as we all know, it can get kind of rude and nasty pretty quick, especially on social media, and so they learn how to be thinking critically with these controversial issues and to communicate effectively so that people will listen to them, or they're more maybe, perhaps would listen to them more than if they were just, you know, not communicating very well and very politely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, awesome. I can see your passion behind this. It's very inspirational. I love it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and you know I will say that I mean our.

Speaker 2:

Obviously our children did lots of other things in school, but TeamPact was a big part of all four of their lives and with TeamPact the leadership side is just as important in our family or it was as the government side and all four of our students went on.

Speaker 2:

Our children went on to staff in TeamPact and to travel with Team PACT to other states to staff those classes, and they make friends all across the country.

Speaker 2:

Once you attend a four-day class, then you can attend alumni events. So we have judicial congress, business media, all these things that help students pursue their passions to see how they could be used in society as adults through these things they enjoy, or to perhaps find out oh, I don't like that as much as I thought I would, but I like something different. So it's really helped a lot of students figure out what they wanted to do after high school whether to pursue a degree in college or join the workforce or go to trade school. And it also gives them an opportunity to connect with team factors across the country, not just in their home state. And so the biggest event for alumni is National Convention, which is held every May In the. I guess the past 10 years or so it's been at Lee university here in Tennessee but that has over a thousand team packers and chaperones from across the country together for a week and they do a national election where they elect a president and vice president, senators and representatives for the whole team pack nation.

Speaker 2:

So once again they get exposed to the political process all over again. Oh, that's neat. That's yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. A lot of good speakers come in, a lot of worship and devotion, small group times that's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1:

That's very cool. So you've been involved for 10 plus years now, yeah, 10 plus years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've been coordinating. I went as a cabin mom in 2014 and in 2015,. I was the coordinator that year and been coordinating ever since, and my husband is the class director and, like I said, all four of our children went through staffing it, so it's been a big part of their homeschool journey.

Speaker 1:

So, for listeners that are tuning in, if you want to learn more about Teen Pact, I have a couple of links here. I will link them in the show notes, but you can visit teenpact. That's T-E-E-N-P-A-C-Tcom. You can also find them on Facebook, at facebookcom forward slash teenpact. And on Instagram same thing instagramcom forward slash teenpact. And if they want to reach you, they can reach out to Sabrina Freeland, because you can help them out to get set up for their workshop session. I'm sure yes.

Speaker 2:

And in Tennessee we have it three different weeks and you only attend one week. So they can go to teampactcom slash TN week. So they can go to teampaccom slash TN. And if they're in a different state, just change the abbreviation to your state abbreviation and you can find the information there for your home state.

Speaker 1:

Perfect. And these workshops they're running every month, every quarter. How does it go? They?

Speaker 2:

run. Yes, they run every spring. So we'll have our first week. The first week of February is when we'll have the first Tennessee class. Then we have one week in March and another one. We actually added our third week last year because we were full in the first two weeks. So we will have a class. It begins the last Monday in April and goes into the beginning part of May. That'll be our third week to have team packs and I will point out that if you register in September that's the biggest discount. So to save money, especially if you're sending multiple students, registering in September saves you the most money. It's an automatic discount on the registration and then October 1st the price goes up a little bit and then 60 days before your class, it up a little bit and then 60 days before your class, it goes up some more.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Well, that's good to know, that's good timing. Yes, yes, perfect timing For those listening today? Yeah, all right. So, aside from TeenPact, what would you say are some of your favorite parts about homeschooling? Are some of your favorite?

Speaker 2:

parts about homeschooling. You know we love just being around our children, so being together was fun. We treasure those times, those moments. I'm a travel agent as a job, and so we were able to take lots of fun trips with our kids that we know we couldn't have done had we not been homeschooling. Lots of good memories, you know traveling internationally with our kids that we know we couldn't have done had we not been homeschooling. Lots of good memories, you know traveling internationally with our kids and having lots of fun experiences. We called them field trips. We weren't on vacation, we were field tripping. And our children still love to travel with us even now as adults. That's a fun part of our family, our family memories, and you know what we've instilled in our kids, I guess you could say and just being together, you know, and making those memories, whether here at home or traveling somewhere, we really enjoyed that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, flexibility is a really awesome thing about homeschooling Absolutely, and it allowed our children to do a lot of other things because we homeschooled our. Our children were all involved in 4-H and, you know, excelled at that as well, and some of ours did orchestra, one of them did band and art lessons just lots of things we wouldn't have been able to do had we not homeschooled.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. Now we do know that with all the fun, there are some challenges.

Speaker 2:

What was?

Speaker 1:

the most challenging part of homeschooling for you, and was it different when you were in the moment versus now, reflecting back?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, looking back, a lot of the things that I thought were horrible then don't seem so horrible right now. So you know, I wish that I had not really worried about so much and not that I worried about a lot, but just some of those things. That math, oh my gosh, you know it's always math, does anyone ever finish math? And so just looking back, you know, I could have just let up and not worry so much. And we like to have fun and sometimes the having fun messed up the schoolwork sometimes. But you know, if you instill a love of learning into your child, they're going to figure everything else out. And so our children all learn to love learning and they know how to learn. And so you know, I'm happy to say, they've all they're in college or finished with college and they know how to learn and figure things out on their own. So, whether or not that science experiment got done or that last math lesson got done, doesn't really matter in the long run.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely, and that's a different part of homeschooling. Right is that it's not always about the exact doing things exactly. We're doing things the same for each child, because every child is very different how they learn is different their personalities, how, what they prefer, absolutely. You know, I'm sure, that you had four very different children absolutely, and even our twins.

Speaker 2:

You know they were in the womb together, but they're still very different, yeah, and their learning styles were different. Their interests a lot of their interests were the same, but they still have their own tastes and personalities and just tailoring their education to their learning styles and what they needed. Certainly the homeschooling flexibility was key for them.

Speaker 1:

For all four of our children, Now, because your kids were close together. Were they about a grade apart or were they further than that Every two years?

Speaker 2:

Okay, every two years. Yes, we had them every two years In the grades they were every two years apart.

Speaker 1:

Did you find that to be challenging? Did you find that to be almost easier? Cause they were kind of in the same pocket together.

Speaker 2:

You know, I never thought of it either way. That's just the way the Lord gave us our children and I I went with it. Um, we used a curriculum called tapestry of grace. That's a whole nother podcast. But because of the way Tapestry of Grace is set up, they're all studying the same time period, even though they're reading different books. We were all learning about Abraham Lincoln around the same time. I didn't have one in world history and one in American history and one in Tennessee history at the same time.

Speaker 2:

We were all learning the same time period at the same time, so we could have discussions about that going on. And you know we were learning about ancient Rome. And then we were in Rome. They had all learned about the Colosseum. I didn't have one who hadn't learned about the Colosseum yet. You know so that I loved Tapestry of Grace. That was a blessing that the Lord just dropped in my lap when our oldest was going into first grade, and we used it pretty much the whole way through high school for our kids.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that was going to be. My next question was did you use the same curriculum all the way through? Yes, we use Tapestry.

Speaker 2:

Okay, pretty much it's a four-year cycle and we got through 15 years of it. That last year, when our twins would have been doing the last year, they were already doing dual enrollment and they didn't need the history or other things, so we didn't do tapestry. So it was a sad moment for me. I wasn't prepared to not do it. When I realized we didn't need it I was like, oh, I didn't have any closure there. But yeah, tapestry was a really good experience for us.

Speaker 1:

I'm so glad you mentioned dual enrollment. That was going to be. My next question was did any of your children do dual enrollment?

Speaker 2:

Yes, they did. Actually, all four of them did, and to differing degrees. You know, one of them had, I don't know, six or nine credits. A couple of them had like 16 or 18. The last one had 24. So the more I figured it out, the more I let them do it. And we did most of ours, did Brian online, brian College in Dayton, tennessee. Ok, we, we used a few others, our son did a couple of others because he was one of those during COVID, and so things were derailed a little bit, but they all ended up being all online. He wanted to go in person, but then that school didn't. We registered him with that school, thinking they were going to be in person, and they changed it at the last minute. So they all ended up doing it online. But it was a good experience and prepared them for college and saved you know, saved us a little money, hopefully in the end.

Speaker 1:

Sure, did they all start around A.

Speaker 2:

Tennessee grant is really, really a blessing.

Speaker 1:

Yes, did they all start around junior year? Yes, okay, and then all of them did it online. That's interesting. Yes, okay, yes.

Speaker 2:

Actually, another thing wonderful about Tennessee and this could be a whole nother podcast as well is two of our four children did a fifth year in high school. So when I say they started junior year, one of them started her senior year but then had another senior year. Ok yeah.

Speaker 1:

Very cool, ok, interesting. Was there a reason why that, why you guys chose to do that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, different reasons for each one of them. One of them just she wasn't ready to talk about college and I called Home Life Academy and I was like I don't know what to do. And the senior counselor was gracious and just talked me off the cliff and gave me these, all these options, and that fifth year was the one that worked for us and took the burden off our daughter immediately and she was 110% for it and it worked out really well. She just graduated college in May, so it was a good decision there. The other one had some health issues and having that extra year in high school to work through those health issues was a blessing, and she's the one who ended up with 24 college credits when she moved off to Rebecca this fall. So, okay, yeah, it worked out for both of them.

Speaker 1:

You mentioned home life. That is that the umbrella? Yes, we were with them for 13 years, okay, so if you're in the state of Tennessee, home life is a great umbrella option.

Speaker 2:

I loved it. Yes, their counselors were amazing. I registered every Thanksgiving weekend to get that 25% discount and I was ready for the next year. So, yeah, they were great All through high school. Even just up till I requested that last diploma this summer. They were wonderful.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. So is there anything else that you would like to share about your experience homeschooling, or encouraging words for parents that maybe they're new to this or maybe they're struggling? You know any words of advice.

Speaker 2:

You know I always as I look back on our homeschool journey, I see how the Lord was so gracious to put veteran homeschool moms in my path, even when I didn't realize at the moment what a blessing they were to me. I can now look back and see how, when we were in Virginia before our kids were even school age and those moms who just gave me wisdom. And then, when we moved to North Carolina, in our church I found this community of homeschool moms and they took me under their wings. They had children my kids' ages those were their youngest kids, but they had older kids also, so they had already been homeschooling for a while and I was able to learn from them.

Speaker 2:

And even after moving to Tennessee, just finding those moms who had homeschooled and learning from them that's my encouragement to new homeschool moms is find someone who's been doing it for a while and listen to the advice you know. Don't go in thinking you know it all. Go in thinking what can I learn? And listening, and not just maybe one homeschool mom, but just find some who've walked that path and have someone who can answer a call when you need help or take a text you know and give you that advice you need when you need it. That's great advice.

Speaker 1:

Wonderful advice, anything else that you want to share today?

Speaker 2:

You know, just enjoy the journey. Homeschooling is a blessing and it's it's something that, as a parent, no one else can do it like you, and just know that the Lord equips you and you don't need to know algebra when your child's in kindergarten and actually you don't really need to know algebra when your child is in algebra because there are online helps and there's tutors if you don't know how to do it. So it really just you know. Embrace the journey and enjoy it it's such a blessing and help your child to find what interests them and every child's different. Just encourage them to find the way the Lord created them and what he created them to be and do, and let them explore and explore until they find that path.

Speaker 1:

That's beautiful. Thank you so much, sabrina, for joining today and for sharing all of this. This is awesome, oh, thank, thank you for having me. Awesome, and I'm going to share her information again. If you want to get involved in Teen Pact, be sure to check out the website teenpactcom. You can find on Facebook and Instagram at Teen Pact as well. And thank you, as always, for listening and tuning in and being on this journey with us. If you would like to follow along outside the podcast, join the mission on Instagram, facebook and YouTube at the radiant mission. And today we're going to close with a verse that Sabrina shared, that's one of her go-tos when it comes to homeschooling, and that is Psalm 78, four. We will not hide these truths from our children, but we'll tell the next generation about the glorious deeds of the Lord. We're wishing you a radiant week and we'll see you next time. Bye everyone.

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